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Inbar Gal ([personal profile] backupmemories) wrote2008-04-30 02:29 pm
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PIC: Chibis of the CSP

...well, because no one will understand who all these extra random chibis are without a guide, I decided to draw one. Mostly for my own benefit, which is why it's all rather thrown together into a single page, and why the names attached are more identifiers than they are names. If you've ever wondered how the chibification process goes, it's something like this. XD

Oh, and due to a lack of good colour references, I guessed on a number of things here. If you see anything you think ought to be changed, tell me! This is very tentative, and if you tell me now, I should be able to correct it before I post the next few pictures that have these guys in it!

Warning: large image








...so, thoughts?

[identity profile] polypragmosyne.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Couthon is teh pretty! Et SJ too. But I'd like to have a talk with Robespierre too.

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Couthon did turn out remarkably pretty, didn't he? Possibly because he had that little grin in his original portrait. I'm glad you liked them! ^___^

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww. &hearts How cute. I really like your style.

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! ^_^

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Whazza!~ They're all so cool (and cute)! THE CSP IS ALIVE. :O Lindet has a pouting lip and Collot and Carnot have big noses. XD But why is S-J mysteriously tanned (pinker anyway)? He's pale too!! Like all good old iceberg-robespierristes. :P (I doubt you get much of a suntan in Alsace or in the North anyway. -_-) But he's hot, that's one thing. *winks to S-J; cuddles*

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
^___^ I'm glad you like it! And as for why S-J is tanner: ummm...it was the first skin-like color on the palatte? ^^ Though now that you mention it, he is a bit too dark. Will have to fix that.

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe he just decided to put some make-up on to piss off all the others about how pretty he was...? Okay, no. XD

Um, also, on the crack story you intend on doing with that and the conversation we had which inspired it... does it have something to do with the fact they're twelve? /sudden illumination?

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
XD And knowing the quality of makeup at the time, he'll probably get high from the fumes...XDDD

...no? Though I'd like to know what your sudden illumination was. (Unless it's something related to Murder on the Orient Express, which is the first thing I thought of when you said that...)

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh. He could start doing naughty and embarrassing things. :O

...Awwww, sucks. I thought I had found out what the mysterious crack!story would be about. >.> http://nirejseki.livejournal.com/80712.html?thread=255816#t255816

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
XDDD No, though it's...um...okay, the irony here just kills me. It's similar and yet completely dissimilar. And it's a crack!picture and crack!comic, not so much a crack!story...the picture is almost done, and the comic will be pretty quickly completed afterwards because it's highly simplistic, so just keep watching this space: there will be further developments. XD

I do have to get around to doing that one too, though. XDDD

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it is IMMENSELY ironical. That's why I thought it was funny. Especially that some historians -- particularly the Anglo-Saxons, who seem unable to disconnect from religion in their analysis -- often seem to see it this way. Though they wouldn't get it.

Who is it who called Jesus a terrorist in one of my courses...? Ah, yes, Mme Leclerc in the Roman Social History Course, thus explaining the reason for the crucifixion -- which is for slaves and terrorists. Naturally. It all works out. Except for the conservatives. XD

But for that picture, you'll need portraits of the Robespierristes. Which I'll do someday in a post, like I did for the CSP, but clearly not now, because it's tougher to get portraits of the Robespierristes.

I still have no idea what's your story there though. >___>

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It is, it is, but you'll understand what I meant more when I actually post it. Which would happen faster if my computer didn't shut down and erase all my work. ;_;

One of my teachers was doing that...except it was a class titled Jesus and the Origins of Christianity, and I initially feared that it would be hideously boring, and then the teacher cheerfully started on about how crucifixion was only really a punishment for political crimes, and how we can completely discount X, Y, and Z parts of the story because they completely contract both each other and what archeology has discovered...it was a fun class. It must have given all the devout Christians in the audience apoplexies.

But yes, please, do find pictures and post them, and I'll definitely draw that image. The idea amuses me immensely. I intend to have Maxime reaching for an orange. XD

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh noes! D: I wanna know!! ;___;

The Holy Orange?

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Quotes from the Gospel of Maxime: Eat of this orange, for it is my body. Drink of this coffee, for it is my blood. Do this paperwork, because otherwise I'll have to...

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
And that's when Collot d'Herbois stood and shouted he hated oranges.

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
XDDD! "And then the entire Committee turned into a shouting match, as was not unusual, and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth, particularly on the part of Couthon who was trying to actually get some work done. And then Maxime cried, 'Oh ye of little faith..!', except he didn't, but some historian a hundred years later decided to say he did..."

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"And this is when Billaud-Varenne also stood and, noting Couthon was writing something, exclaimed, 'This is it, they plan to kill us all!!!'. Thus Couthon eyerolled and the others continued yelling..."

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"And then Saint-Just decided to say something which wasn't terribly nice about how touchy Billaud-Varenne seemed to be - almost as if he felt he was doing something wrong - and Collot d'Herbois started shrieking 'Tyrant! Dictators!' - and, that historian from a hundred years later would like to eagerly add, he may have been foaming at the mouth, because that's what these people do, you know - and Maxime was just wondering how their nice dinner had turned into this, though he was not really very surprised. And lo! Barere looked up and disclaimed any responsibility for it, and no one was surprised..."

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
OMSB, they're so adorable! (Though of course a great many of them aren't when they're not in chibi form. -__-;) I especially like Billaud's expression and Robespierre's striped coat and vest, and the "realistic" outlines are quite impressive. ^__^

Also, I suppose I'm a bit late now, but a stumbled across another picture of Lindet--which is also a bit late, so perhaps it wouldn't have been too useful in the first place. Here it is anyway though, just in case: http://cybermuse.gallery.ca/cybermuse/search/artwork_zoom_e.jsp?mkey=44443

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! It's amazing what becomes cute when you chibify it, yes. ^^ I'm glad you like them, both the chibis and the realistic ones. ^^ I hope the chibis give at least some indication of coming from the realistic ones. ^_^

Pictures are always welcome. Though I think I'll stick with the Lindet I have, if only because the big poof of hair makes him distinctive from the other chibis...

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The only one for whom it's a bit difficult to tell is Carnot; and I don't recall Couthon looking quite so sallow-faced in his portraits, though I could be misremembering. Overall thought, you've captured them admirably. :D

Your reasoning makes sense, though personally I prefer the David portrait. >__>

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
With Carnot, I was trying to change the only picture of him I had (one painted with his hair in a later style) so that it would be more in tune with the time period of the others. This generally meant that the entire thing got fudged. -__-;; As for the skin tone, I mostly just guessed or took a color or two from the portrait. *will edit that, then, as it's pretty easy to fix ^^*

It's a much prettier picture, admittedly...but I'm trying to imagine chibi!sideburns of that sort and I think my mind just broke. XDD

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh--but didn't [livejournal.com profile] maelicia and I both send you different portraits of Carnot? I thought mine was earlier... It's easy enough to mess something like skin tone up by taking a color from a portrait, since there are often unexpected gradations in paint.

It would look pretty funny, admittedly. And he probably only grew them post-Thermidor in any case; I don't recall having seen any portraits of men with sideburns for the Year II or earlier.

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*blink* I didn't think that you sent me a picture of Carnot at all...*goes to check* No, Bar�re, Couthon, Billaud-Varenne, Herault, Prieur de la Marne...no Carnot. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?

But yes, that's what happened - I managed to eliminate the mostly obviously wrong of the skin color graduations (damn those blue undertones, that's all I'm saying...)

Just with the way everything is exaggerated in chibi-form, they would probably turn into sideburns of doom and would scare everyone else around him by being so unfamiliar. XDD

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I must have forgotten. -__-; This (on this page, if you scroll down to the "c"s http://membres.lycos.fr/discours/) was the one I meant; I have it in one of my art books, so I know that it's really supposed to be Carnot. But I think it too comes from sometime after Thermidor. In trying to find it again online just now though, I found an anonymous drawing of him from the Collection Carnot (http://www.diagnopsy.com/Revolution/images/0424.jpg), which I find somewhat perplexing, since he looks older but is dressed in a style more similar to that of the early 1790s than he is in the other portraits... Perhaps it's just because he has his hair pulled back instead of pushed forward though.

You did a fairly good job with the skin tone of the majority of them, certainly.

As in "I have sideburns. Of DOOM. Be afraid, be very afraid"? XD